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    sanjon
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    John Doe said,

    “As for people who put in orders for huge deliveries of UK groceries, all I can say is WHY?”

    and my answer to that is, “Because my wife wants to”.

    John Doe went on to say,

    “We have supermarkets full of food in France.”

    and my response to that is,

    “Yes John Doe, you’re quite right, there are supermarkets full of food in France and my wife buys some of it every week. But, because a lot of the food my wife and I like to eat isn’t available in the shops local to us she also has foodstuffs delivered from the UK.”

    John Doe then continued saying,

    “The delivery charges for UK goods would buy a load of stuff here”

    and my response to this has to be,

    “John Doe, you’re talking complete and utter rubbish!!! My wife uses British Corner Shop

    https://www.britishcornershop.co.uk

    and if she spends more than £100 (and last year she spent more than £2,400) they deliver to our door free of charge.”

    So like many British people who live in France, my wife and I are very happy we’re able to buy the food we like to eat.

    Regards,

    John.

     

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    As for people who put in orders for huge deliveries of UK groceries, all I can say is WHY? We have supermarkets full of food in France. The delivery charges for UK goods would buy a load of stuff here.

    From what British pensioner friends have said, when the £ / € exchange rate delivers a 30% drop in income due to transfer losses, buying UK goods in sterling and having them shipped here is better value than converting £ to € and then buying what may be lower quality and / or more expensive goods in France.

    As I don’t derive much in the way of income in sterling anymore I can’t say whether that is accurate as I’ve not researched it but if I know sensible people who say it is financially advantageous to shop in the UK and get it shipped over, I trust their judgement.

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    Why not try going to Gorron, firstly to have a coffee in the Englìsh run restaurant then over the road to Elliotts Boucherie run by Lorraine and Darren for home cured bacon, home made sausages and pies and 21 day aged beef (try their steaks, gorgeous) and if you live in one of their delivery areas you can get it brought to you. If you still have space in you car visit Steve’s new shop where you can buy most grocery items from the UK. All English run and owned businesses.

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    Katsura, you may be right about the exchange rate, but read on. And there is nothing wrong with the quality of the food I buy here.

    Sanjon, why are you shouting?  And why take up so much space to say so little.

    I don’t know, and don’t need to know how big your family is, but I don’t think I have ever spent £100 or 100€  on food in one go since I came to France. Looking back through my cheque book, I can tell you that I have spent 136€ for the last 4 weeks in local shops.

    My main weekly items are sliced sandwich bread, pain au céréals, 3 or 4 bottles of fresh milk, 2 cartons of UHT milk, whatever meat is on special offer, breakfast cereals, yoghurt, orange juice, tins of tuna or other fish, fresh fruit and vegetables. Then there are things like cleaning and personal care products, and a large sack of dog croquettes and a small one for my cat, but none of these are weekly items. Perhaps once a month. I keep a small supply of alcohol in the house for guests, and a few beers for myself, and have to replenish from time to time. Out of that list there’s not much that I could buy from the online shop you mention. In fact, looking at their web site home page, just about every food product shown could be classified as junk or convenience food. I can’t see any real food. I don’t need to look any further.

    You will see that in my list there are no sweets,  biscuits, cakes, or other sugary, obesity inducing, diabetes creating tins and cartons included. I do treat myself sometimes, but that’s rare. I’ve changed the brand of bread I buy since I saw that the previous one had more chemicals than ‘proper’ ingredients. It wasn’t made in a bakery, it was made in a chemical factory! I regularly check salt levels before buying. And my vegetable garden keeps me supplied with good, home-grown food. Potatoes and onions going in soon, and seed trays in the poly tunnel have already been seeded or prepared.

    It seems that we live in different worlds. If you don’t mind, I’ll stay in mine.

    Caxton, I think I get your point!

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    John, you make the point of writing a lot to say so little in reference to another persons post. May I suggest you read your last posting in the same light and remember what they say about people, glass houses and stones.

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    remember what they say about people, glass houses and stones

    People in glass houses shouldn’t throw sex parties.

    What sanjon said is that, in addition to what his wife spends in French supermarkets, she sometimes spends over £100 with britishcornershop for things that local shops don’t have because she wants to, and that last year she spent over £2400 with them, and they are both happy with that. I think that is all he said, but he took the opportunity to throw in an insult.

    It took me less than 4 lines to say it, but it took him over 20.

    I think my reply says much more than that. It’s not just a reply to him, or to Katsura, but a comment on my lifestyle. Surely I am entitled to discuss that on this forum. After all, the heading of this thread is “Getting things moving etc”

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    On the Cheddar cheese topic, you can buy mature from LeClerc in Saint Hilaire du Harcouet. It has been stocked for months.

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    Choices?   Isn’t that what we all make but why then would we need to defend those choices to others?

    We are living in France – for many and varied reasons – big lifestyle changes/choices.   If not having access to our particular British foodstuffs, little treats, particular brands which we cannot live without starts to make us even slightly miserable, then we should be prepared to spend the extra time and money on finding the best way of getting those items into our store cupboards.

    We are NOT living in exile :wacko: !!

    My personal experience started long ago in  trying not to long for my old life and food, but being determined to embrace my new life and new things, new tastes and, if necessary, finding the closest item to what I did miss, buying that as a replacement…..and often preferring it!   It worked for almost everything, but I still bring back some items from England when I visit, or have them shipped over  here.  I am very specific regarding tea and some cosmetics and paint and some English seeds and tools. But that’s me.  Others I know can’t live without Marmite or Baked Beans or Yorkshire Tea.  Some collect it in England, some ask friends to deliver it, some have it shipped over, some buy these products and others here because they are now readily available – but they complain long and loudly about the price.  So, how much do you really want these items?  If you can’t live without them, then of course you pay the extra and hopefully feel happy that you can go out and buy them in a local French supermarket.  If you can live without them or any items and have a much smaller household budget, then, hopefully, you adjust your view to fit.

    Last weekend English friends at their holiday home were cooking roast lamb for neighbours and were mortified to see that the recent bad weather had obliterated their garden mint.  No fresh mint in the supermarket, no fresh anything anywhere for a few days, but  there was a squeezy jar of Heinz mint sauce. They are comfortably off but were horrified at the French price tag!   How much did they really want to serve mint sauce, I asked?   They bought the mint sauce.  Lots of us are limited by lack of funds, perhaps more are limited  by lack of  willingness to adapt or inability to change our habits.  But does it really matter?  Whether you spend a fortune on English food in France or whether you have long ago shed all Britishness and almost become a native, as long as we are happy and contented in our all too short lives and not affecting anyone else – ça marche !

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    John Doe,

    You asked,

    “Sanjon, why are you shouting?”

    and to that I have to ask you,

    “Would you please be so kind as to indicate where you think I was shouting because I can’t see anything I’ve written that would make any normal user of the internet think I was shouting?”

    You then went on to ask,

    “And why take up so much space to say so little?”

    and to that I can only say that I answered a question you asked and responded to nonsense comments you made and if you don’t like people responding to your question or nonsense comments can I be so bold as to suggest you don’t ask them or make them.

    You then went on to say,

    “I don’t know, and don’t need to know how big your family is”

    and in saying that you’re quite right, but as you raised the issue I’m quite happy to tell you that there is my wife, me, 29 cats and 7 dogs.

    You then went on to say,

    “I don’t think I have ever spent £100 or 100€ on food in one go since I came to France. Looking back through my cheque book, I can tell you that I have spent 136€ for the last 4 weeks in local shops.”

    and to that I can only say,

    “Well yippee do Johnny Doe!! If not spending more than £100 or €100 on food in one go is what turns you on then fill your boots man, it’s happy days, go for it. And if spending €136 in the local shops for that last 4 weeks makes you tingle then go for it again because if doing that makes you happy then I’m happy for you”.

    As for your list of your main weekly items, well although I found it fascinating reading (but I have to say I’m not impressed by you buying Tuna) I’m afraid I couldn’t tell you what our main weekly items are because my wife tends to ‘buy in bulk’ and we use / eat things as and when we want / need to.

    But I think the main difference between your shopping habits and my wife’s becomes apparent when you say you bought a large sack of croquettes for your dog and a small one for your cat because that is so very different to how my wife and I buy the cat and dog food.

    You see John Doe, the last time we shopped for cat and dog food (well over 12 months ago) we bought 4,800 tins of cat food which came on 4 pallets, 320 large tins of dog food which came on 2 pallets and a full pallet of croquettes for the cats and another for the dogs and we buy like this not just because it saves us money but because it is so much more convenient being able to nip out to the barn for stuff as and when we need it than having the inconvenience of having to buy it from the supermarket each week.

    You say that out of your list there’s nothing much you could buy from British Corner Shop and I agree with you and if you’re happy buying what you buy and eating what you eat then apart from you buying Tuna I don’t have an opinion and if you’re happy then I’m happy for you.

    And when you go on to say,

    “Out of that list there’s not much that I could buy from the online shop you mention. In fact, looking at their web site home page, just about every food product shown could be classified as junk or convenience food. I can’t see any real food. I don’t need to look any further”

    I can only say that I agree with you again and admit that most of what I like to eat probably would be classed as being convenience food, but that’s only because I find having to stop what I’m doing during the daytime simply to eat really is most inconvenient.

    You go on to say,

    “You will see that in my list there are no sweets, biscuits, cakes, or other sugary, obesity inducing, diabetes creating tins and cartons included. I do treat myself sometimes, but that’s rare. I’ve changed the brand of bread I buy since I saw that the previous one had more chemicals than ‘proper’ ingredients. It wasn’t made in a bakery, it was made in a chemical factory! I regularly check salt levels before buying. And my vegetable garden keeps me supplied with good, home-grown food. Potatoes and onions going in soon, and seed trays in the poly tunnel have already been seeded or prepared”

    and on reading that John Doe I have to say that I am very, very happy for you.

    But for my wife and me, well because there are only 24 hours in a day and we’re happy filling those 24 hours doing things we like to do we haven’t got time to check salt levels or have a vegetable garden as you do.

    And with regard to the sweets you don’t buy, well after eating hundreds of Yorkie Bars during the years I drove a petrol tanker I quite like the occasional Yorkie Bar now and rather than pay ‘top whack’ buying a couple at a time from the supermarket in France we’ll buy a box of 36 bars for about £16 from British Corner Shop. And because my wife likes to have the occasional Cadbury’s Flake, well instead of paying ‘top whack’ for them at the supermarket we’ll buy a box of 144 from British Corner Shop. And because I quite like Sports Mixtures and Midget gems and my wife likes other sweetie things we’ll buy a few packets of whatever we want at a time from British Corner Shop and by doing it this way we’ve always got something of what we like in the cupboard or fridge / freezer and amazingly, neither my wife or I are obese or diabetic and we’re both very happy with our lot.

    And because I’ve never been one for stopping and sitting down to a meal during the day when lunch time comes my wife will walk around until she finds me (if I’m not working on a vehicle in the garage she’ll find me demolishing or building a wall somewhere) and she’ll give me a Pasty or a Pork, Steak or Meat and Potato Pie bought from British Corner Shop and some salad she bought from Hyper U and a mug of tea made with teabags from British Corner Shop and as soon as I’ve finished eating and drinking I’ll carry on with what I was doing and I’ve lost very little time.

    But Mondays and Thursdays are special because that’s when the bread lady comes with our fresh bread that was baked in a bakery and at lunchtime my wife will bring me a sausage or bacon (bought from British Corner Shop) sandwich and my mug of tea and that sets me up for the afternoon.

    But John Doe, even though I’m certain our life style wont meet with your approval I’ll not lose any sleep over it because my wife and I are very, very happy living as we do and the thought of living as you do just turns us cold. But each to their own as they say.

    As far as I’m concerned you’re free to live your life as you want to and I’ll not judge you for it and all I ask is that you don’t judge my wife and me or anybody else for living our lives as we want to.

    But in closing John Doe, I’d just like to raise a couple of points with you.

    The first is that in another post on this thread you said I’d “taken the opportunity to throw in an insult” and as I’m certain I hadn’t insulted you in any way I’d appreciate it if you could specify what it is you think I’ve written that you feel was insulting.

    And the second point is that only a few days ago you started another thread titled ‘Can UiN Survive’ and in your opening post you said,

    “I have been contributing to this forum for almost 2 years either by responding to other people’s topics or creating my own, and saw it slowly grow.

    From time to time, I have also commented about the inactivity on the forum, but it now seems to have stalled almost completely, with Aly’s topic being the only one discussed, and on occasions like yesterday she is the only contributor”

    and with you seeming to be concerned about the lack of people posting on the forum I can’t help but ask,

    “Given that what you’ve said on this and other threads seems to suggest you feel that what you see is all there is and that you’re always right and everybody else is always wrong and that nobody else has anything of any consequence to say or do in their lives, do you think what you say on the forum would be more inclined to encourage or discourage others from posting?”

    Personally I think it would be the latter but I was just wondering whether you may have ever considered that you might be part of the problem.

    But John Doe, now that I’ve finished writing to you I’m off to have a Meat and Potato Pie for my lunch and then I’m off out to build a wall in one of the barns and I hope you have a nice day checking your salt levels or doing whatever other mind blowing activities you get up to.

    Regards,

    John.

    PS I’m pleased to see you have a cat and a dog because as far as I’m concerned, anybody who loves an animal clearly has at least one good point.

     

     

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    Well said Sanjon, I agree with your comments entirely.

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    Well, children, that was a strange story, wasn’t it.

    What did you thing of it, Mary. Yes, you have a point. It is lacking in logical plot, and is excessively bold in style. What’s that? You think he is suffering from repetitive strange injury. That’s right. Apparently it’s called that  because of the kind of people who suffer from it. Repetitive strange people. Yes, I do think it could be a serious case of excessive compulsive repetitive activity phenomenon, or e-CRAP.  Of course, what he has written is complete and utter rubbish!!!  I can say that, hand on heart, with or without three exclamation marks to indicate a lack of understanding of what an exclamation mark is, because it is not insulting. He has said so, and I am quoting him without making any fuss about it, and who am I to argue with a stranger. He, on the other hand, makes all the fuss in the world when he quotes someone, and in one case when he quotes himself for the first time. It’s true. It’s bold, “it’s within quotation marks”, and it’s a question ? being asked for the first time. He’s drawing attention to himself. Moron this later!

    What about you, Johnny. What did you think of the writer. You’re right, he’s not Shakespeare or George Bernard Shaw, he’s not even Enid Blyton. And, wow, those are big words for a little boy. Do you know what paranoid schizophrenic means.  I agree, there does appear to be a disconnection between his caring for animals and the way he treats people. And he attempts to draw attention to himself by all possible means. He’s an attention seeker. That’s why he uses all that bold type. He can repeat himself, so why can’t I? And he goes into lengthy self-justification. And his obsessive repetition of British Corner Shop, and of his proclamation of his greater buying power there or elsewhere seems to be approaching disturbed behaviour. It often starts in childhood with “My Dad’s bigger than your Dad” or “My conker is better than your conker”. When it transitions from healthy competition to obsessive behaviour, sometimes outside help is needed.  He has become more and more unstable as the thread unfolded.

    What was that, Freddy. You think you could have written a better story. Of course you could. After all, you are nearly 5 years old.

    He’s been very quiet for a while now. What do you think he is doing, Jenny. You think he’s had some of his sweeties to calm him down, and he’s gone back to building his wall. Do you think he is using bricks or concrete blocks. Mental blocks! I see what you mean. They inhibit logical thought and proper psychological development. The wall is simply a metaphor for a barrier. He’s building a metaphor!

    Now, children, I want you all to watch out for him. He’s not dangerous, except to himself, but he is a disruptive element. He has been naughty before, and I think the headmaster has already told him off. None of the other children want to play with him except one type who I would press to print more than a single sentence in support of his friend, as the pair of them make their way to a fantasy land called Little England.

    Of course this is a fantasy story, and any connection with real people is coincidental and unintended.

     

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    <p style=”text-align: left;”>What an excellent thread to encourage people to use this forum more and enjoy the supportive atmosphere and the friendly banter..</p>

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    I was thinking the same thing me.

    I live in an area where there are lots of Brits and they/we are lucky to have a couple of excellent Epicieries Anglaises plus a well stocked Super  U. Heinz beans are 95 cents a tin for example. I know that at least one of the UK shops has a healthy French clientele which will probably surprise many.

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    Me and James. I asked a simple question. I was then trolled. Second time by the same person.

    Time to move on. As for Heinz beans I used to buy them, but since the merger or takeover with/by the evil Kraft (remember what they did as soon as they bought Cadbury), I won’t touch anything bearing either name. Pity, because I like their ketchup and salad cream. Of course, Kraft subsequently split, and the snacks part including Cadbury became Mondeléz, and I also give them a miss.

    Going back to a comment by Ray Gregory about cheddar cheese at Leclerc, I saw Wyke Farm cheddar in Carrefour yesterday. I saw a 200g pack for 3.37€, which is 16.85€ per kilo. They used to sell Cathedral City for about the same price, and from time to time I bought some. The Tesco mature cheddar I was given was £5.20 per kilo. If you can get it from the UK, fine. If not, why not treat yourself locally. I just found that I was buying more Camembert.

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    I was in our local Grand Frais a couple of days back and was yet again impressed with their cheese counter. They always have a decent choice of UK cheeses and this time bought a piece of Shropshire and Stilton both of which are delicious.

    When I lived near Caen my then girlfriend worked in a small independant camembert factory and one of the perks of her job was her entitlement to a couple of  packs of cheese each friday afternoon when they knocked off. Those were the days in that village where we used to walk to the local farm just up the road with small milk churn in hand to pick up the days fresh milk.

    Happy days.

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