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    David
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    Why all of a sudden are the latest migrant crossings in the Channel causing such a media frenzy with the UK Government calling back two more Border Force rescue boats etc?This has been going on for a long time, as the local people in Dover will tell you.The migrants have been turning up on the beaches and asking”where is the nearest police station”for years.Also,at Portsmouth,there has been about ten migrants a week being found(who knows how many have not been found) for about the last two years,which has never even made the papers or the news!Must be a reason for the media coverage at the moment.

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    When the illegals have been found it is history. Correspondants can stay in bed and write the story. With events that are happening now, such as riots,they have to get out of bed, go out into the cold to write their reports on the spot. What would you prefer?

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    Just an idea, maybe it’s Govt driven media showing that they are doing something to “take back control of our borders”………. the whole Brexit thing is looming, we promised we’d go through with it, no deal is going to be bad, better get on board with May and accept it stuff.

    It wouldn’t surprise me if, just before the vote is due, media shows the patrol cutters forcing back migrants to France and hailing the operation a success, thus bolstering their position.Just playing Devil’s Advocate here.

    I couldn’t really give a flying one if a French trawler beached on Uk shores and 300 migrants poured out, good luck to them. They’ve shown their tenacity to escape the Middle East/Sub-Saharan Africa walk hundreds of miles,deal with organised criminal gangs and then sail an inflatable across 21 miles of the heaviest sea traffic anywhere, in the dark. And, after all of that, it’s been continually proven that immigrants contribute more to the country than they take. It’s only the “Middle England Daily Mail gammons” with their over-bearing sense of self-righteous entitlement that are worried about their fat pensions, or the just plain and simple misogynistic, xenophobic and racist narrow minded tw*ts that complain immigration.

     

    Oh dear, went off on a bit of rant there, sorry, haven’t even been drinking either! :wacko:

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    Short reply to your comments and its I agree with you, I havent been drinking either.

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    Just what i was thinking,most of the UK media,tv and papers are government run(bit like Russia),so obviously the coverage is propaganda.

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    well since the science bods tell us we all originate from somewhere else  those of us already in europe are just lucky our distant homo sapiene or whatever they were relatives bogged off out of where ever it was earlier than the migrants have! they just happen to be the latest wave.

    where would the knuckle dragging fag smoking, tabloid buying shave head morons who do most of the moaning about “them coming over taking our jobs” (the jobs they wouldn’t take in a million years!) do if it was not for the stay open almost forever shops run by the ‘foreigners’ when they need those essentials of life like fags, booze, take-aways & papers when normal shops are shut?

    when my eldest son was being born he took his time & we went through 3 shifts of midwives, I think the only race not included was martian? where the heck would we have been without the united nations of nurses?

    a friend works in the NHS she told me they started having staff problems as soon as brexit threatened, those non brits who were near their contract ends did not renew & recruitment slowed down, the NHS is falling apart, even before brexit, a friend is having an op in france this week, she has only waited a short while, in UK i waited 9 years for the same op!

    we left UK not to avoid new comers, but the bigotted nasty ‘ we are the better ones’ already there who are welcome to stay & have the UK to themselves if they want it that way ‘cos I don’t want them in france.

     

     

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    When another forum member who I and others seemed to find to be ‘disruptive’ departed United in Normandy recently I thought the forum would be a much nicer place to visit and participate but reading some of the comments on this thread it seems I was wrong.

    How sad it is that some people seem to be unable to comment on certain matters without generalising and hurling unfounded insults at others simply because they have different views and opinions.

    Aren’t these comments nothing more than prime examples of bigotry?

    And do the people making these comments (and the forum Admin) not realise that it is comments like these that make others less inclined to participate in discussions?

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    Can one be bigoted towards bigots?

    I’m sorry that you feel that way Mr Atkinson, I’ve re-read through all the replies to the OP and can’t seem to find any personal attacks on any member. It appears to me that everyone is in agreement, until your post, and your generalisation. Good for you for standing up and putting your, entitled, point across. Just because we disagree doesn’t mean that we don’t find your points valid, in fact, they’re welcome. It is only through adult conversation that points of views are changed.

    My generalisations are from my personal point of view and experience, and are based upon the people I have met and talked with. Whether that was NIMBYs or immigrants.

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    When another forum member who I and others seemed to find to be ‘disruptive’ departed United in Normandy recently I thought the forum would be a much nicer place to visit and participate but reading some of the comments on this thread it seems I was wrong. How sad it is that some people seem to be unable to comment on certain matters without generalising and hurling unfounded insults at others simply because they have different views and opinions. Aren’t these comments nothing more than prime examples of bigotry? And do the people making these comments (and the forum Admin) not realise that it is comments like these that make others less inclined to participate in discussions?

    I feel the forum is a much better place without that nasty member, I’m now motivated to be more proactive in discussions. Thanks Tom or mod.

    To be honest, I can’t find any of the posts offensive. Am I missing something ?

    Migrants have been illegally entering the UK for centuries so why the sudden headline news ? Some cynics (moi included) would say it’s to detract from the real news on the table at the moment. Does the PM really believe more MP s will be swayed towards agreeing on her Brexit deal because of the hyperbole being spouted since Parliament stopped for their winter break ?

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    In the news today it says two arrests have been made in the UK of people suspected of facilitating illegal immigration.

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    The foreign secretary is ‘making a fuss’ as he is positioning himself to impress that small number of mainly middle class members of the Tory party that will elect the successor to the Maybot once the Brexit shambles is done and dusted. The correspondent of the Spectator magazine (not a woman much given to doubting the motives of Tories I suspect) as good as said so on C4 news last night.

    It also helps to stir up anti immigrant views amongst the rest of the electorate. They have an odd idea of crisis – 220 people crossing the channel and landing in the UK illegally since November is a drop in the ocean compared with the estimated 300,000 that landed in Italy in 2014 and 2015.

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    Looks like everyone is mostly in agreement ,that it is UK Government/media propaganda.Disgraceful tactics,using these particular migrants to try and gain some ground in the political mess(that they have created),which will no doubt rear it,s ugly head again next week when they finally get back to work after the long festive break.

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    Another 27 Iranians found in the back of a lorry on the M6 the other day,so they are not just arriving by boat.

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    Another 3 boats found on the beaches near Dover yesterday.The UK are never going to stop these migrants unless they change their asylum policy(which is not going to happen).You just need to look on the UK Gov Asylum website to see why the migrants are so intent on reaching the UK.

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    i may be about to kick off a fuss here & i don’t mean to offend but it seems to me if these people are so desperate to leave where they were & risk so much to get to UK they are in the main  the sort of don’t give up triers who are least likely to blow any chance they get to make a real go of their new life?

    it was desperate migrants from europe inc displaced farmers from scotland wales & ireland as well as other unwelcome groups in mainland europe who if you  look back founded most of what the USA / Canada/Australia are so proud of, the industry, railways, skyscrapers, etc

    of course in with the genuine there will be criminal elements, possible terrorist members, & some intent on bumming about but perhaps if the system were working better they could be weeded out?

    its all a mess, plain & simple, no way can the legal entree system cope nor can the limited number of official keep ’em out officers cope, i feel sorry for the genuine migrants, for the overworked officers, for the rescue workers, but i also thing those proffiting from it all should have every penny they own taken away to help pay for their victims & should be sent to a prison in which ever hell on earth their desperate victims came from for a long long time.

     

     

     

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